How All In The Family’s Norman Lear Tried To Put A Stop To Archie Bunker’s Place

Carroll O’Connor’s unforgettable portrayal of Archie Bunker in “All in the Family” left an indelible mark on television history. For nine seasons, O’Connor’s character—a conservative, blue-collar worker with a penchant for derogatory remarks—captivated audiences. Viewers reveled in Archie’s interactions with his liberal son-in-law, Mike (Rob Reiner), affectionately nicknamed “The Meathead.” Despite Archie’s often offensive remarks, O’Connor’s performance had a unique charm that won over the audience.

O’Connor’s commitment to the character was so strong that he extended the show’s run beyond what others had anticipated. While season 8 was meant to be the series’ grand finale, O’Connor managed to keep it alive for an additional year, leading to the creation of “Archie Bunker’s Place.” This spin-off shifted the setting from the Bunker household to Archie’s newly acquired tavern.

Norman Lear, the show’s creator, wasn’t initially on board with this continuation. Reflecting on this at the Sundance Film Festival in 2016, Lear admitted, “The only one who didn’t [want to stop] was Carroll, and he was the most difficult.” Despite Lear’s deep admiration for O’Connor, he tried to end the series. However, O’Connor had CBS backing him, making it impossible for Lear to stop the show’s evolution.

“Archie Bunker’s Place” wasn’t just “All in the Family” with a different name. The show introduced new dynamics, especially after Edith (Jean Stapleton) made only a few appearances in the first season and then was written out by dying at the start of the second season. New characters came in to clash with Archie, attempting to fill the void left by Mike and Gloria (Sally Struthers), who appeared sporadically.

Lear eventually relented, largely to avoid putting many people out of work. He recounted a pivotal meeting with CBS owner William Paley, who presented a list of names that would be affected if the show ended. “The only way it got on was when [Paley] called me to his office and had four or five pages of names of people who would be out of work if the show didn’t go on. And so the show went on.”

While “Archie Bunker’s Place” ran for four seasons, it never matched the cultural impact of “All in the Family.” The original show’s success was rooted in the unique chemistry of its cast and characters—a magic that couldn’t be fully replicated. O’Connor’s talent kept the spin-off afloat, but the absence of key characters meant it could never reach the same heights as its predecessor.